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Week Two:
September 7, 1998 - September 11, 1998

Forms, Paperwork and Legal Questions


Day One

Subject: CLASS: useful forms
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 10:54:55 -0400
From: Judy Marion - iluvdogs@HUSKYNET.COM

Good morning eveyone. I hope you enjoyed the last time I facilitated a class and please know that the class is an open discussion of opinions, suggestions and ideas from everyone. No flames or arguements will be tolerated.

Today we will start with questions to ask someone that calls to inquire about adoption. The guidelines that people have will vary according to breed, so lets all be patient. A handy way to get what you need out of this class is to write down any important issues that you never thought of before and then make your questionaire or revise your current one. There will be more then one example on the URL as not all things apply to all dogs.

First topic on a questionaire over the phone. I do Rottweiler rescue. Now as soon as someone calls inquireing about a dog the first thing I ask is if they are a renter. Why? Because the landlord's insurance policy that actually covers the property more often then not, will not cover certains breeds. The Rottweiler is on this list of most insurance policies nationwide. I tell them to ask the landlord for the name of his insurance company and call themselves. Tell them you want to get a Rottweiler and see if they are ok with this. If they say yes, then get the name of the agent you are speaking to and ask them to give you something on their letterhead that states they will cover the liability of the Rottweiler at whatever address they need. Most insurance companies will not do this, will not cover this breed for a renter, and then the renter goes on to calling back. They want to know if their own renters insurance will suffice. Anyone know the answer to that? Lets get started and enjoy the class!

Judy

"until there are none...rescue one"
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NoVa Rottweiler Rescue League, Inc/MD,DC,VA
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Subject: Re: CLASS: useful forms
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 21:47:30 -0600
From: Rob & Elaine Summerhill - dyno-mutt@WIZREALM.COM

Well, it's been quite a long time since I had renter's insurance, but I seem to recall that it did not cover liability issues conected to pets. I seem to think that it only covered loss of property due to fire, theft, etc. But, I wonder if it is possible to get a rider attached to the policy to take care of pet liability issues?

elaine


Subject: Re: CLASS: useful forms
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 07:48:25 -0400
From: Judy Marion - iluvdogs@HUSKYNET.COM

I think you are correct but I also think it may vary with certain breeds and certain insurance companies. I am sure we have renters on this list that can help us with this one in order to place a dog.

Next question on questionaire over the phone:

Children, how many and how old. This also will vary as a deciding factor with different breeds. With Rottweilers, if the dog was a stray or even a give up I do not place with toddlers. I do not know the amount of stress a dog will take or if a toy will scare them. But if the children have been used to living with dogs and I have a owner surrender that has grown up with dogs, then I will consider this one (if they are homeowners)

Anyone else care to share what they ask people over the phone? Lets hear from some different breed rescues!

NoVa Rottweiler Rescue League, Inc/MD,DC,VA http://waikaloa.huskynet.com/rottirescue/rescue.htm


Subject: class: questions over the phone
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:55:43 -0400
From: Dennis Gulau - Gulau@TM.NET

As a German Shorthair rescuer, I also ask people what other pets they have. I actually had a person who wanted a **hunting** shorthair to keep in his house with his two free-flying pet cockatiels!! And it took a while for him to understand why this wouldn't work!? Shorthairs are also not always good with cats and it is amazing how many homes I have had call recently that had one or more felines in the household.

Ann Gulau
German Shorthair Rescue
SOS Animal Rescue
Gulau@tm.net


Subject: Re: class: questions over the phone
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 21:53:22 -0400
From: Judy Marion - iluvdogs@HUSKYNET.COM

At 05:55 PM 9/7/98 -0400, Ann Gulau wrote:
As a German Shorthair rescuer, I also ask people what other pets they have. I actually had a person who wanted a **hunting** shorthair to keep in his house with his two free-flying pet cockatiels!! And it took a while for him to understand why this wouldn't work!? Shorthairs are also not always good with cats

Good questions! And that brings me to another good one: I ask people exactly what they are looking for because some dogs need regular grooming, some are low maintenance, some are alot of work. And by "work" that could mean maintenance or constant quality time and commitment for training and socializing. How about crates? Anyone that feels as strongly as I do about the need for a crate trained dog? Some people refuse and think it is cruel...until the dog eats the sofa :)

Judy
NoVa Rottweiler Rescue League, Inc/MD,DC,VA
http://waikaloa.huskynet.com/rottirescue/rescue.htm


Subject: CLASS: Useful Forms
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:50:52 -0400
From: "Beth E. Widdows" - bew1234@TIR.COM

Anyone else care to share what they ask people over the phone? Lets hear from some different breed rescues!

My Name is Beth Widdows and I represent the West Highland White Terrier Club of SE Michigan; What we currently do is classified as "referral" rather than rescue but I am trying to learn more about the details involving actual rescue. Initially I am sure there is a lot I can apply to our operation and, hopefully, at some time in the future we can expand into doing some actual rescue work. As many of you know, clubs are often reluctant to get into actual rescue; usually liability is the major reason given. I have a lot to learn about all of these topics!! I have only been involved since March of this year and have dealt with about 20 animals total. As you can imagine, Westies do not present the problems that bigger animals do. We actually have a waiting list although, of course, everyone wants the perfect, young, housebroken dog and not the ones with problems or age.

We send out a questionnaire which mirrors and actually goes into more detail than we do over the phone. I do ask about fencing. I would be very reluctant to let a Westie go to a place without adequate fencing since Westies can "go deaf" when confronted with something like a squirrel. I ask about children and explain that the major reason we get dogs is because the family has a new baby and the dog does not like it...or it is showing signs of problems around young children. I am hesitant to place a Westie in a home with small kids unless I know the dog has done well around small kids in the past. I want to know the dog will be kept indoors. We ask if they have ever had a pet which died at an early age or was put down; I ask for details. I ask if they will commit to an obedience class although I don't necessarily deny if they can't. Sometimes there are good reasons why they can't. I ask if they have any problems with spaying or neutering. I ask about other pets they own since some Westies don't get along with some animals. We ask for a $25 donation up front which weeds out a lot of people who are just looking for a cheap dog and won't spend the money to take care of it. We don't charge an adoption fee at this time but do ask them to reimburse any expenses encountered such as neutering or grooming. I also ask how long the dog will be home alone at a stretch and make sure they know that a Westie can live to 15 or 20 years which is a long time to commit themselves to.

I find that most people either had a Westie or have done a lot of research into breeds before they contact me. With the application I send out a list of internet sites that will help them become more familiar with Westies. And offer some reading suggestions such as "How to Childproof Your Puppy".

Hope that this is the type of information you are asking for. This is my first time so tell me if there is anything I should be doing differently.


Subject: Re: CLASS: Useful Forms
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 22:11:35 -0400
From: Judy Marion - iluvdogs@HUSKYNET.COM

After reading Beth's post I had an idea that I would like to share with the class. In the end of the *telephone interview* session we should have 3 forms.

  • a referral form - for people that only do referrals
  • a form for large breeds
  • a form for small breeds
So what do you all say? Beth could use some advice and alot of people can only do referrals so we all need to help those people have a really good form to go by. Ok, all of the long time, very experienced rescue people (yes you Vicki from Chow rescue LOL) and many others that can really help out here, lets hear your thoughts.

JudyNoVa Rottweiler Rescue League, Inc/MD,DC,VA
http://waikaloa.huskynet.com/rottirescue/rescue.htm


Subject: Re: CLASS: Useful Forms
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 20:33:50 -0700
From: Catherine de la Cruz - cdlcruz@SONIC.NET

For anyone interested in the rescue policy and associated forms used by Great Pyrenees Rescue of Northern California, you may download them at

http://www.sonic.net/~cdlcruz/Rescue/forms.htm

An Adobe Acrobat Reader is required, but a free copy may also be dowloaded at the same site.

Catherine de la Cruz
cdlcruz@sonic.net
Great Pyrenees Rescue of Northern Calif
http://www.sonic.net/~cdlcruz/Rescue/reschome.htm


End of Day One

Day Two








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